# Add obstacle for monkey-patching

**URL:** <https://discourse.hanakai.org/t/add-obstacle-for-monkey-patching/313>\
**Category:** proposals\
**Created:** [March 22, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://discourse.hanakai.org/t/add-obstacle-for-monkey-patching/313 "2017-03-22T17:26:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![jodosha](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/discourse.hanakai.org/jodosha/32/710_2.png) [@jodosha](https://discourse.hanakai.org/u/jodosha)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://discourse.hanakai.org/t/add-obstacle-for-monkey-patching/313/4 "2017-05-09T15:56:36Z")

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@rosenfeld Hi there 👋 and welcome!

> [@rosenfeld](#):
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> Would you be interested in creating such a ruby-web-developers group that wouldn’t be tied to Rails or ActiveSupport?

Absolutely. Which tool for communication you were thinking of?

> [@rosenfeld](#):
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> I mentioned that as one of the strongest reasons why I switched to Roda last week in two articles:
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> [http://rosenfeld.herokuapp.com/en/articles/ruby-rails/2017-05-01-feeling-alone-in-the-ruby-community-and-replacing-rails-with-roda](http://rosenfeld.herokuapp.com/en/articles/ruby-rails/2017-05-01-feeling-alone-in-the-ruby-community-and-replacing-rails-with-roda)  
> [http://rosenfeld.herokuapp.com/en/articles/ruby-rails/2017-05-03-ruby-on-rails-the-bad-and-good-parts](http://rosenfeld.herokuapp.com/en/articles/ruby-rails/2017-05-03-ruby-on-rails-the-bad-and-good-parts)
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> This is my attempt on stopping feeling alone in the Ruby community. I want a stronger Ruby community that has other values than the Rails community.

I read the “feeling alone” last week when somebody shared it on Reddit. A great read 👏

> [@rosenfeld](#):
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> I’m not sure if you noticed but the last release of the mail gem will also patch Ruby core classes.

Yes I spotted it long time ago: [Remove monkey-patching? · Issue #936 · mikel/mail · GitHub](https://github.com/mikel/mail/issues/936)  
But we kept `mail` because it’s a solid lib, we didn’t wanted to implement a lib from scratch just because of monkey-patching. Of course I’m extremely happy they removed it from the lib.

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